In part two of Roxanne’s sit-down with James Forman Jr., the two dive further into James’ first book Locking Up Our Own: Crime and Punishment in Black America.

Forman tells us his first-hand story of the criminal justice system from his experience as a public defender and shares his incredulity over his results of Harvard’s Implicit Association Test in this season finale.

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Books in this episode:

Locking Up Our Own: Crime and Punishment in Black America by James Forman

The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander 

Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson 

Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates

The Power of Their Ideas: Lessons for America from a Small School in Harlem by Deborah Meier